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#21 dowedoit

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Posted 04 February 2017 - 03:07 PM

I think this was one of the videos from 2015 that lead to USEF stepping in about the shanking. It's hard to watch and I've seen people defending it. :( I'm worried things are just going to get worse with all the talk about "making halter exciting again".

 

I worry about that too.  What on earth do they have in mind.  I don't want to know or see because it will surely come at a cost to the horses.  


The last time I went to Scottsdale my husband had to sit on me to keep me from going over the wall at Rodolfo Guzman.  I wouldn't let him touch one of mine.  And if he dared to ball his fist at me?  My husband and 10 more twice his size wouldn't have been able to hold me back.  A$$HOLE!  And yet, people keep on paying.  And like TripleH says, I've seen MUCH MUCH worse.  Glad I'm out of it.  So sad for the horses but you can only do so much when people refuse to see.

 

I agree but assume you meant Rudolfo Guzzo....


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Posted 04 February 2017 - 07:00 PM

I worry about that too.  What on earth do they have in mind.  I don't want to know or see because it will surely come at a cost to the horses.  


 

I agree but assume you meant Rudolfo Guzzo....

Sorry yes, I did mean Rodolfo Guzzo. 


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Posted 05 February 2017 - 02:40 PM

https://youtu.be/G2oqAur7ZEU


It disgusts me.  And pushes even further from wanting anything to do with AHA.  


Notice how Rudolfo Guzzo threatens the gal taking the video here...

 

https://youtu.be/CNivRWXwZYs


https://youtu.be/b86A_zyDL0Q

 

 

  That  man needs his balls kicked off, just sayin'.


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Posted 05 February 2017 - 02:57 PM

The one taking the vid has the bigger pair.....just sayin'...


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Posted 05 February 2017 - 03:37 PM

I couldn't even watch it past seeing Schall going after that poor baby for NOTHING!! I've seen this stuff in person too. I can barely watch halter anymore. My daughter refuses to watch it. Now thats not to say I've not seen abuse u/s. I've sadly seen plenty of that too.

Good point someone said why we can't get more people to our breed.


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Posted 05 February 2017 - 04:28 PM

I know of several trainers with reputations for being "kind" that I remember banging on their horses back in the day. I think they just got sneakier about the abuse.

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Posted 05 February 2017 - 04:44 PM

The one taking the vid has the bigger pair.....just sayin'...

 I agree!!!


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Posted 06 February 2017 - 09:45 AM

The sad thing is that he generally has a reputation for being one of the more kind trainers.

 

That tells a sad tale!


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Posted 06 February 2017 - 10:47 AM

Even the "kindest" halter trainer leaves residual behavior. One of mine comes from what I hear "is one of the kindest"

 

I have to wonder with one of my horses who still 3+ years into my ownership "Piaffes" when we wash or rinse them and the water pools around their feet.......

It has gotten better,  but they still have that "oh my god moment" that you have to wait out and reassure.  At home I do them on the dirt still and I do my best

to avoid the cement wash racks that are prevalent at the shows.


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Posted 06 February 2017 - 02:20 PM

The sad thing is that he generally has a reputation for being one of the more kind trainers.

He does????  I've never heard that!