Jump to content


Photo

Anyone ever crossed a Gypsy Vanner with an Arabian?


This topic has been archived. This means that you cannot reply to this topic.
53 replies to this topic

#21 msjwebb

msjwebb

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3,227 posts

Posted 13 March 2013 - 07:23 AM

The temperament + the bone + the size (Small). The color is a bonus. If size wasn't an issues I'd just buy any well conformed draft cross. 

 Ok. If it were me, I would look more towards the welsh cobs over the gypsy as they will give you everything you are looking for except color and are known to cross well with Arabs. They have been breed for hundreds of years for bone, size and temperment. Even the queen of England rides them and it would make the horse (pony) valuable as a child's mount if anything ever happened to you.

If you are dead set on a gypsy for the color, look for one that is a high % of welsh.



#22 mrs epson

mrs epson

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3,025 posts

Posted 13 March 2013 - 07:31 AM

The temperament + the bone + the size (Small). The color is a bonus. If size wasn't an issues I'd just buy any well conformed draft cross. 

So why not just go for a purebred G. Vanner?


www.unfetteredarabians.com

"My hubby is one sexy man!" hahahahah very funny Rick!

#23 ridetowin

ridetowin

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4,246 posts

Posted 13 March 2013 - 07:43 AM

I haven't seen a Gypsy Arabian cross, but I guess it would be sort of like a Friesian cross? or The draft/arabian cross .............. I have seen more bad ones than good ones, it's either hit or miss.


Sonya


"If slaughterhouses had glass walls, there would be more vegetarians"

#24 AccentoArabians

AccentoArabians

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,690 posts

Posted 13 March 2013 - 07:57 AM

I haven't seen a Gypsy Arabian cross, but I guess it would be sort of like a Friesian cross? or The draft/arabian cross .............. I have seen more bad ones than good ones, it's either hit or miss.

 

I would say it's more of a hit with a Gypsy. Some of them are pretty nice, but some can be conformational wrecks.

 

I'm taking a "risk" and breeding a mare to a Friesian this year and although I've received some flack it should turn out well. The stallion isn't overly course and my mare has bigger bone. Also, the stallion and similar have had nice Arabo crosses with the right mare. That's the key is chosing the right mare and the right stallion.


KL Lalita (*Kluszyn X Malitaa) --her 2012 filly by Mr Holly Fire (Afire Bey V X Zodiac Matador daughter)
Ames Dutchess (Philander Bey X Contessa Parada (Gai Parada))
RoyalesCarmenJazz (KC Rouge Royale X Beaux Suada)

Petita (Heritage Bey King X Zsa Zsa Ghazi (*El Ghazi))

#25 CBJ

CBJ

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,948 posts

Posted 13 March 2013 - 08:48 AM

Any pictures of the mare and stallion??


Carole B. Jones
Deer Run Arabians & Quarter Horses
Contessa Fayek RW (RRA Desert Prince x Princess Fayek) 2001 Chest SE Mare
Jokers Doc Sana (Zans Diamond Joker x Doc A Pepsana) 2003 Chest QH Mare
Elekhtric Toi DRA (HG Esquire+ x Wind Up Toi) 2009 Liver Chestnut Filly
Wind Up Toi (Toi Soldier x Spring Premier) May 20, 1996-Feb 24, 2009
Innishfael Loki (Rlink To Blue x BR Peaches Moore) 2009 Buckskin Gelding
www.itsuxco.com
www.adriennecjones.com
http://www.escobuff.com/

#26 Aelfleah Farm

Aelfleah Farm

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,076 posts

Posted 13 March 2013 - 09:23 AM

If it's bone in a smaller package, and you simply must breed instead of buy (buying is much much cheaper btw), bred to a more proven cross like to a section C or D Welsh.  The Welsh cross rarely produces a train wreck - you might not get the next sport champion, but you have a much better chance of  getting a horse/pony with a decent brain, nice bone, and parts that reasonably match than you will with a Vanner.  Or breed to any other heavy pony breed, maybe Dartmoor, that has been bred for actual riding instead of pretty feathers and cow hocks. 


Tamara Woodcock, Scurry, Texas
BLUE STAR Arabians and Arabian-influenced Sportponies
Combined Training, Combined Driving, Dressage, Endurance, and Show Jumping

Posted Image


#27 msjwebb

msjwebb

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3,227 posts

Posted 13 March 2013 - 09:27 AM

What do you think of ths guy as an example? Nice large boned, small stature, a great temperment AND color. You won't get the feathers, but breeding to an Arab you might not get them anyway.

http://www.goldenven...1GVFNCCInfo.htm



#28 Iona

Iona

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 19 posts

Posted 13 March 2013 - 09:28 AM

This is the stallion in question: http://www.fabulousf...dragon-DFG.html



#29 ridetowin

ridetowin

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4,246 posts

Posted 13 March 2013 - 09:36 AM

WOW I could see him in Thermal as a childrens jumper!

 

 

 

 

 

What do you think of ths guy as an example? Nice large boned, small stature, a great temperment AND color. You won't get the feathers, but breeding to an Arab you might not get them anyway.

http://www.goldenven...1GVFNCCInfo.htm


Sonya


"If slaughterhouses had glass walls, there would be more vegetarians"

#30 maryjo

maryjo

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,733 posts

Posted 13 March 2013 - 09:40 AM

Majikal


MaryJo