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#11 mrs epson

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:31 PM

I was unaware the requirement no longer exists, though not surprised. From my point of view a halter horse is being judged to be confirmationly correct. So expecting they are capable of being ridden shouldn't be an issue. It isn't like they had to be actively promoted under saddle.
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I tend to think that's a silly statement. However I doubt there are many persons who have saddle horses that couldn't enter the halter arena at some point to qualify. so go for!

I think maybe you don't understand the qualification requirements when this ruling was in effect.
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Posted 28 August 2012 - 05:36 AM

Sometime in my past I was once told that a stallion had to prove its worth 3 ways , Correct conformation = halter wins, Athletic ability = Performance wins and the ability to pass on those traits to his get = progeny that can win at halter or performance or both . Shouldn't that be the goal for our breeding stock ?
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Posted 28 August 2012 - 07:15 AM

I think it should be encouraged to show in both halter and performance. My problem is if they try to tell me I have to show my horse in one division before I am allowed to show in a completely unrelated one. Quite frankly, we need less rules not more and we need to encourage participation not discourage it by making it more difficult for those that do still want to show.

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#14 Laura

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 03:41 PM

It was merely a requirement they be shown under saddle to qualify. It was Not a requirement they show under saddle at Nationals.

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 07:37 PM

I am pretty sure they had to RIBBON in a performance class to qualify, is that not so?

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 07:47 PM

They did have to ribbon, but it became a joke. They would go to tiny shows and show in whatever class did not have any entries, then I think they changed it to you have to pin in the top 50% of the class so many would pad the class with a 2nd horse. Some of the BNTs took to having their own shows or train rides, in fact I think Magnum Psyche's performance qualification came from completing a trail ride. If I remember correctly one of the mares lost her National Championship over the performance requirement and the owners of the Reserve Champion mare sued AHA.

Granted there were some that legitimately did earn their performance qualification, but I feel many of those horses would have been shown performance any how.

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 06:06 AM

I agree, if performance only people want halter only people to show performance why could it not be reversed onto the performance people to show halter too? AHA doesn't need any more rules. Yes, horses should do halter and performance, but forcing someone to do it isn't wise IMO. All of our yearlings show halter, then performance. i have two that showed halter this year and both are geared towards the Futurities in both halter and performance. But as it is my money, and it does cost immense training, show and trailering fees to each and every show, I like to be able to choose exactly what they show in...

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 09:33 AM

I personally have no problem with National qualifications requireing horses having been in performance. People being people will always find a way to shorten the process. However, I sure can get behind a horse like Noble Express, who can successfully do both. I relize it is more time consuming. However, I really like the idea of seeing our older boys in the winners circle. Give the youngsters a chance to grow and mature.
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Oh and another thought. I also have no problem with the top 5 (maybe ten) horses having their saddles pulled of and stood in bridle. There's you halter! I personally think it would just make the class more exciting. And would possibly allow us to see the horses without the hard stand. Just a thought.Me again thinking outloud!

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 09:46 AM

It's pretty simple DON"T BUY breeding's to unbroke stallions.

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 10:11 AM

I personally have no problem with National qualifications requireing horses having been in performance. People being people will always find a way to shorten the process. However, I sure can get behind a horse like Noble Express, who can successfully do both. I relize it is more time consuming. However, I really like the idea of seeing our older boys in the winners circle. Give the youngsters a chance to grow and mature.
Laura :D

Oh and another thought. I also have no problem with the top 5 (maybe ten) horses having their saddles pulled of and stood in bridle. There's you halter! I personally think it would just make the class more exciting. And would possibly allow us to see the horses without the hard stand. Just a thought.Me again thinking outloud!

Then you're going evaluate the high placing horses and perhaps say "OMG, the head isn't extra type, OMG, there is white sclera, OMG the neck isn't long enough or the throatlatch isn't fine enough, OMG a leg is isn't perfectly straight, OMG the horse has a club foot, OMG, the croup isn't level one bit, but rounded, or sloped off and whatever else one can come up with".
There are MANY, MANY highly successful, fabulous performance horses, all divsions with more than one of the OMG's. So this will never happen IMO.

And likewise, there are MANY MANY highly successful halter horses that could never compete WELL at high performance levels.... , either mentally, or physically, they just can't to the job... so then what?

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