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#11 SandStone

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 04:28 PM

Come 'on AAHA, put BOTH feet in the batters box!

There should be no hesitation to make what we all know to be a positive move - the ethical treatment and showing of our Arabian horse!

Can't you see the number of people standing behind this? Have you read the comments written on the petition? This is a movement. And a good one at that.
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Posted 10 October 2007 - 04:33 PM

a big thank you, Stacy for bringing this here!
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Posted 10 October 2007 - 04:36 PM

i got to see the new scoring system used at MN Fall Fest last month - while i did hear some gripes from spectators about the length of the classes, i only had one comment for them....

the new scoring system allows time for the judges to look at EVERY horse for the same amount of time, no matter who is on the lead rope and assess them accordingly. i know that for myself, i would show at arabian shows more if i KNEW the judges would be looking at my horse.

i signed the petition and sincerely hope the new scoring system is not shot down. EVERY horse in EVERY class deserves a the same assessment.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 04:42 PM

I don't see what's so bad about their response. I think it's got some valid concerns.

I also agree that the Scoring system won't do anything about the hard standup or abuse in the halter ring - it's a bunch of propaganda put forth by the supporters of the system, at best.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 04:44 PM

Take a look at the scorecard posted in my previous post.

How many of you think that you could not use it today?

Now imagine if you were to go through a class that tells you what below average, average, above average meant. How many could not use it?

Anyone who has passed the judges school had darn well better be able to tell what is below, average and above or they should be throwing in their judging towel.

I think most of us could take that card to a show, watch the class and score it fairly effectively even from the stands. Imagine how much clearer the conformation is when the horse is right in front of you, all by itself!

TRANSPARENCY!!!!! That is the real tag word here. What are the judges afraid we are going to see if this card is utilized? What do the trainers think the owners and folks they have recommended breedings to are going to see?????? Why are these people so afraid of TRANSPARENCY!?!?!??!?

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 05:17 PM

I don't see what's so bad about their response. I think it's got some valid concerns.

I also agree that the Scoring system won't do anything about the hard standup or abuse in the halter ring - it's a bunch of propaganda put forth by the supporters of the system, at best.


Not true Alex, I've seen halter horses so intimated they won't trot out of fear of the handler.Under a scored system they couldn't or shouldn't win. I saw the same horse being schooled later in the week for the ammi class, the minute the bnt came near she started shaking leaving no doubt that it was him not being shown that was her fear.No more short cuts beating the crap out of halter horses ;)

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 05:21 PM

I hope that by pursuing this and posting AAHA's clarification you all see that you don't have to be wrapped up in the show world to be involved with a discussion of this type. I have NO AGENDA here, I don't show halter or have halter horses. I am a woman who loves her horses and supports the Arabian breed.

Sometimes an outsider can see the whole picture better than those deeply involved and passionately energised. I was reading a whole bunch of negative statements and words that were not based in fact. But I could find very little expanded explanation of AAHA's way of thinking. With Dean's help contact with the board was made and the result is now here for all to see.

I am so proud that ABN allows us all to be heard, to feel like we are a part of the big picture. Let's go forth and use it wisely.








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Posted 10 October 2007 - 05:29 PM

Alex, it is only propaganda when it is not what one believes. For instance I would see the contents of the AAHA letter as propaganda. ;)

You may be right. The scorecard may not eliminate abuse, in fact I will go as far as saying it will not eliminate all abusive training tactics as some trainers just will not change.

However, it will reduce the amount of time the horse has to be under stress because it will reduce the amount of time the handler has to stand them up which in turn will greatly reduce the amount of stress the horse has in the show ring.

If AAHA will not use the scorecard the least they could do to show they are willing to reduce abuse/stress is eliminate the final standup!!!!

For those trainers who want to earn those extra movement points, they will work harder on trotting than on standing.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 05:30 PM

I've read Myron has studied this system all over the word, and you tell me our judges haven't been trained yet??????????I don't blame the Scottsdale group for not wanting to be the first. It's been a year since this was adopted by AHA, Who is not doing their jobs?


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Posted 10 October 2007 - 05:31 PM

One spoiled apple ruins the whole barrel! in this case one whip happy trainer, tars the whole bunch.

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