biteing problem in young stallion
Posted 20 July 2011 - 06:14 PM
The new on farm trainer I have can't get over how big he is for a yearling. His B-day was 4/7/10 so he's just 1 yr 3 mos and he's freakin HUGE. That's a FULL Sized HORSE halter he has on by the way.
Posted 20 July 2011 - 07:49 PM
The next time he tried to bite me, I leaned over and bit him on the side of one nostril really, really hard and just hung on. He ran backwards about 30 feet with me still hanging on until I finally let go. He just stood there staring at me with an absolute shocked expression on his face. However, he never tried to bite me again.
Lorna G. Kirby, PE
haha!! that's kinda what I "simulate" by pinching if a baby tries to bite me. I just use my fingers instead of my teeth!! I mean I pinch hard and hang on for a few seconds...soft sensitive tissue but doesn't do any real "damage". Very rarely do I have to pinch a second time.
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 07:58 PM
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 08:46 PM
I have had horses since I was fourteen, centuries ago, and have owned five different stallions and boarded three others. I am in complete agreement with MJ here. I also ,when a foal threatens to kick as a tiny thing, kick back HARD and fast. She is right , get it over with, be serious about, just as another horse would do. Not a Natural horsemanship follower, but John Lyon's once said, yo have 3 seconds to "kill" them when they commit such grave sins. He is right, and so is MJ, IMHO.
I am in the camp of 'knocking him into next Tuesday' once and for all. Be done with it. Pushing his face away, playing with his tongue mean a GAME to him.
What would another horse do to another horse if they were bit? Go, "oh, you are just being busy? You are just being cute?"
Best to make a major correction and be done with it. Go on with life.
I also have ( this sounds gross , but it worked) bitten back, on the nose and hung on like a bulldog. Only had to do it once, to a yearling colt. We have no biters or kickers here at all.
Posted 20 July 2011 - 09:01 PM
Young colts can be so much to deal with. We had 3 born here this year and i admit i would like to sell all :P i am curious, in foals what methods do you guys use with great success on a shy, naughty,colt that bites and at times kicks? Weanlings can also be a struggle.
Normally, when they are first born and for a few months after, I would lay them down until they submit. I get them down (either catch them laying down or wait til they throw a tantrum and throw themselves down or fall down) and I hold them down by any means necessary until they give in. Once they will lay down and let me cuddle them and touch them every where and they fall asleep in my arms, I rarely have problems with a youngster. Usually by the time they're 3 or 4 months old, they've figured out that I'm top dog and don't offer to bite or kick again. Some of them actually learn to like being cuddled like that and come lay down at my feet and 'ask' me to rub their bellies. Unfortunately for Harley, he only got laid down a few times before I got hurt and couldn't do it anymore. Now he's way too big for me to do that to unless he's willing to lay down and let me sit on him......uh......probably not gonna happen.
Posted 20 July 2011 - 11:12 PM
Basically...it probably has a lot to do with how they view humans. To Paladin we are big squeaky toys. We are teaching him otherwise of course!
Posted 22 July 2011 - 06:44 PM
Posted 22 July 2011 - 07:14 PM
If you catch it the first and second time with harsh reality and consequences, there won't be another time, usually. However if they have been getting away with it. It'll take time and consistency and not giving up or in.
There is no miracle cure.
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Posted 25 July 2011 - 01:09 PM
But why should he do this? He has fun biting you! So did mine. Now he has a lot more fun NOT biting me because he has learned that if he holds his "pose" with his head turned away from me, he'll get a
treat. He loves-loves-loves cookies.
I know, I know: food makes horses more mouthy. No. Read the research. Don't tell me I-have-30-years-experience-and-my-Dad-and-Granddad blah blah blah. Hey, so do I and so did they. Read the research, unless you just enjoy wacking on your horse. And in that case, glad I don't know you.
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