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Posted 12 January 2010 - 11:04 PM

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I'm trying to learn about "strain" breeding and while I know that Rennie is Kuhaylan Ajuz (Rodania) because of his tail female line, what do you see in the rest of his pedigree? What physcial characteristics would you expect from this pedigree? What is the definition of "pure in strain"? I've read several, what is the most accepted? I'm trying to understand the complexities of strain breeding, please educate me.

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 10:34 PM

Renegade Spirit DCA

I'm trying to learn about "strain" breeding and while I know that Rennie is Kuhaylan Ajuz (Rodania) because of his tail female line, what do you see in the rest of his pedigree? What physcial characteristics would you expect from this pedigree? What is the definition of "pure in strain"? I've read several, what is the most accepted? I'm trying to understand the complexities of strain breeding, please educate me.


http://www.gyford.co...esOfStrain.html

This is an excellent article by Charles Craver on Strain breeding. There may be some pure in strain in the Bahrain and Iran although I do not know regarding the later due to the political upheaval. The stud book I have, which was the information given to WAHO for recognition is now out of date.

The Blue Star Catalogue is a wealth of knowledge as the horses listed in it all must trace to families confirmed from the desert. The Raswan Index would be another collectible source. Sometimes an abridged work will be offered on Ebay.

Bedouin Arabian - Strain and Type Breeding, Hensley, Jackson M. This is a rare gem. Mr. Hensley was a true strain breeder who was located in Colorado.

Here is another link to some interesting articles with picture examples

http://www.arabianho...de/bedouin.html

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 04:45 AM

http://www.gyford.com/archive/2009/04/28/www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/3095/CorrolariesOfStrain.html

This is an excellent article by Charles Craver on Strain breeding. There may be some pure in strain in the Bahrain and Iran although I do not know regarding the later due to the political upheaval. The stud book I have, which was the information given to WAHO for recognition is now out of date.

The Blue Star Catalogue is a wealth of knowledge as the horses listed in it all must trace to families confirmed from the desert. The Raswan Index would be another collectible source. Sometimes an abridged work will be offered on Ebay.

Bedouin Arabian - Strain and Type Breeding, Hensley, Jackson M. This is a rare gem. Mr. Hensley was a true strain breeder who was located in Colorado.

Here is another link to some interesting articles with picture examples

http://www.arabianho...de/bedouin.html

Leo



Jackson Hensley is still alive and I think residing in New Mexico.

Charles Craver and his wife Jeanne are a font of information.

This is a young stallion breed by the Cravers that is four generation in strain--Quatrain CF-- his pedigree
http://www.davenport...IN_CF92c26.HTML

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 05:01 AM

Renegade Spirit DCA

I'm trying to learn about "strain" breeding and while I know that Rennie is Kuhaylan Ajuz (Rodania) because of his tail female line, what do you see in the rest of his pedigree? What physcial characteristics would you expect from this pedigree? What is the definition of "pure in strain"? I've read several, what is the most accepted? I'm trying to understand the complexities of strain breeding, please educate me.



I can not say for the whole of the pedigree, but one thing I did notice with a quick look at it is that his sires tail female line is *werdi which was one of Davenports imports and is Kuhaylan Krush in strain.

Most horses nowadays are not breed to be pure in strain, where I more often find emphasise (sp?) of breeding with in strain contexts is with groups such as Al Khamsa. It is also used quite a bit with in Davenport breeding and I think SE breeding too.

I recall speaking with Charles Craver at one point about strain breeding and he expressed to me how he liked the challenge of it, and pattern breeding, and he used my mare in my avater as a example of pattern breeding.

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 06:01 AM

Jackson Hensley is still alive and I think residing in New Mexico.

Charles Craver and his wife Jeanne are a font of information.

This is a young stallion breed by the Cravers that is four generation in strain--Quatrain CF-- his pedigree
http://www.davenport...IN_CF92c26.HTML

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You are absolutely correct...New Mexico..
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Posted 14 January 2010 - 06:01 AM

Jackson Hensley is still alive and I think residing in New Mexico.

Charles Craver and his wife Jeanne are a font of information.

This is a young stallion breed by the Cravers that is four generation in strain--Quatrain CF-- his pedigree
http://www.davenport...IN_CF92c26.HTML

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You are absolutely correct...New Mexico..

Isn't it wonderful to look at the grey horse and IMMEDIATELY KNOW it is an Arabian And a Stallion

Masculine, short backed, classic neck into shoulder, a typy head

BUT...there seems to be something seriously wrong.

WHY DOES THIS STALLION HAVE NOSTRILS instead of a snake nose?

Why does he have small ears...shouldn't they be able to swat flies off the walls?
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