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#625297 No Convictions For Marsha Parkinson And The Return Of Over 60 Horses As A Res...

Posted by dowedoit on 27 February 2012 - 12:12 PM

Hmmmm - guess I'm officially proud to be a member of the "tin foil hat society" that approximately a year ago (edited to "approximately a year ago" from "more than a year ago" to reflect the seizure in April - was thinking it was January...) voiced our concerns about the legality of the Canterbury seizure. As was said back then but bears repeating now - don't assume it won't happen to you. Don't assume that everyone who falls prey to a "rescue" group turned law enforcement is guilty.

I am so thankful that Marsha found the resources to challenge DEFHR and Queen Anne's County. I would not have been to come up with the money to defend the bogus charges - as is the case for most people - which is why these rescue groups have run amok and have been allowed to trample on the property rights of owners.

For those who were so critical and quick to judge Marsha - I hope you learn something. And I hope that people will quit being so quick to judge - that mentality is what has given these vigilante rescues the power to abuse.

I am forever grateful that Marsha has exposed their abuses. I certainly hope that she is able to recoup what I would expect to be a six figure legal defense bill in civil court.
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#626212 No Convictions For Marsha Parkinson And The Return Of Over 60 Horses As A Res...

Posted by grizz on 01 March 2012 - 01:24 PM

I have been watching this topic since the very beginning.. I am Happy with the results of the trial, and over the years have seen this sort of seizure played out several times. It is all too easy for someone not familiar with the breed to look at an arab horse and judge it as underweight. Especially those horses that are used for endurance. These are not quarter horses or drafty's. And a lot of older arabians tend to be really hard keepers. Especially when they get to the point where they have lost most of their teeth, or if they have become picky eaters with supressed apetites. I look back at the feeding frenzy that was joined in and encouraged by many on this site with disgust, and only hope that one day you don't find yourself in a pickle because one of your oldsters whom you have doted on and kept long past it's "usefulness" has to be put down in front of you by a comittee of vigilante horse thieves. More than one person's stock have been stolen away in this fashion, and some of the rescues involved look upon a person with a large number of animals as easy pickings, especially when the owner is no longer a spring chicken themselves. They see money to be made for the "rescue" operation in terms of huge monetary donations that pour in with their begging campaigns that accompany this type of huge seizure..and in this case outright theft. A word to the wise, next time don't be so quick to judge the person that is under attack. Heaven forbid that you offer some youngstock for sale to a public venue and someone uses that avenue to gain access to your premises. If they spot a skinny old nag on the place beware, you may find that you will lose your animals, and possibly your property and if you can't mount a legal defense you may wind up in jail as a result of some PETA nut wanting to shut down your livestock business.
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#625471 No Convictions For Marsha Parkinson And The Return Of Over 60 Horses As A Res...

Posted by Briska on 27 February 2012 - 09:19 PM

Cecilia...you still take my breath away. You're contention that the prosecution could have supplied their own expert witness to refute Dr. Henneke on his own research paper is priceless. Just priceless...

Look back and you'll find that this whole fiasco began with Marsha offering to donate horses to DEFHR as a way for the rescue to raise funds. Requesting the return of only 63 horses leaves 70 horses for DEFHR to sell...as was originally planned. Then greed entered the picture and 'they' somehow became obsessed with capturing Marsha's entire herd (thus more money)...I'll admit to taking a bit of literary license, but I'd bet I'm close to the mark.

As to the plea bargain and who benefited most, my money is the DA. I can only imagine the pure, unadulterated fear when they learned the author of the Henneke body condition scoring system was the expert witness for Marsha! The entire case is founded on DEFHRs findings based on the use of this scale. The only expert witness capable of challenging Dr. Henneke would be one of his co-authors. AND THAT aint gonna happen.

So where do we go from here? Each and every one of us would be well served with some earnest soul searching; why did we react as we did, say what we said and fight for the side for which we fought... Then, move on and become involved with your local animal control officers, sheriffs, humane organizations and ultimately your elected officials to effect a change. Only you can decide what that change will be, but I challenge you to decide.

Until we meet again,
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#625288 No Convictions For Marsha Parkinson And The Return Of Over 60 Horses As A Res...

Posted by msjwebb on 27 February 2012 - 11:39 AM


"Don Henneke, PhD., Director of Equine Science at Tarleton State University in Texas, was prepared to

testify as an expert for the defense. Dr. Henneke developed the Body Conditioning Scale for horses that

is used internationally. It is frequently referred to as the “Henneke Scale.” Dr. Henneke reviewed the

evidence and, in his professional opinion, HSUS and its rescue partners (the groups responsible for the

seizure) “showed a complete lack of understanding” in the application of the equine body condition

scale as applied to Ms. Parkinson’s horses and “exhibited extreme bias.” He concluded that “the charges

of neglect against Ms. Parkinson were not warranted. The horses should not have been removed from

her control and custody.” A copy of Dr. Henneke’s report is available upon request.

Under the agreement, the State dismissed 123 counts, and Ms. Parkinson pled “no contest” to 10 counts

of “failing to provide adequate shelter.” The court struck all ten counts and entered a probation before

judgment, which is not a conviction on any of the counts. Ms. Parkinson will eventually apply to the

court to expunge the record of the 10 misdemeanor counts not dismissed. Under the agreement, Animal

Control must return over 60 of her horses, selected by Ms. Parkinson, to Canterbury Farm."
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#761670 Warning:theft of intellectual property

Posted by MyssMyst on 06 June 2015 - 03:38 PM

My ######...  Just block each other, go have a margarita, and call it good...  Or moonshine.  I think this thread is at the 180 proof moonshine phase now...  Seriously, both of you are being ridiculous.

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#626106 No Convictions For Marsha Parkinson And The Return Of Over 60 Horses As A Res...

Posted by setter555 on 01 March 2012 - 05:37 AM

I just got this email with the request by Marsha H. Parkinson of Canterbury Farms to post her message to everyone that supported her and worked for her, as is...I am not taking anything out of her message:

Finally it has hit me, and I am falling asleep at the desk, into my soup, and then waking up to find that even though it is raining, the sun is shining.

Would you please, through whomever you trust, have them post on ABN how very much I have appreciated the long and hard work everyone who saw this travesty for what it was, and stood up to voice their courage. And still are.

I will be able to speak soon and there will be conformation of those who stood by me, knowing me or not, and in their hearts knew that someone who has loved horses for their lifetime, would not have done vile things to these noble and precious animals.

For all of the horror that this has brought, and for the deaths of horses because of it...and for the slander and libel that is still going on, and probably will not stop......there were many good things too.

I give hope that it will help others in the battle against abuse of power.

You Leo, are incredible and you have stood by through thick and thin. A person I did not know, while some of those who I have helped for years had not only turned their backs, but stuck knives in mine. Sure shakes the wheat from the chaff. And, Leo, you are at the top echelon of that which came out of the dark night of the soul that was good. Your friendship is treasured.


I also got a message from Leo that he has no desire nor interest to come back here. He wants everyone to know this. You can find him elsewhere.
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#625660 No Convictions For Marsha Parkinson And The Return Of Over 60 Horses As A Res...

Posted by Khona's Mom on 28 February 2012 - 02:19 PM

:th_fathorsey: Sorry, but ....... anyone besides me MISS reading Leo's and Tom's posts here? Perhaps there
has been enough of a "cooling off" period to reinstate them??? Just my 2 cents worth... back to lurk mode...
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#772629 2019 foals.......am I the only one?

Posted by BFF on 18 March 2019 - 11:31 AM

Am I the only one with a 2019 foal?  This is my only foal expected of my own but we have several Elikzir++/ foals expected in 2019 here in the United States and one in Canada.


No point in posting if there is no one here anymore..........


Here is my 2019 foal sired by Elikzir++/ (Ganges x Ularia) and out of my OLDENBURG mare Elfies Legacy (Herzberg x Elfentanz)  aka Arabella.

Arabella is 17 Hands and first had a career as a Dressage horse where she excelled and then she moved on to the Hunter/Jumper world where she competed

in all Three rings-  Hunters, Jumpers and Equitation.



He is just 6 hours old in this photo.  Born March 8, 2019


Just a few days old here


Five days old here


Eight days old here

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#772391 Ghost Town

Posted by greygelding on 07 October 2018 - 06:39 AM

I thought I was the only one who checked every day.
It seems our board is on its last legs.
I will definitely miss it. 
I hope Mike and Pam are ok he has not posted here in a while.

We’re fine here. Working two jobs has kept me busy. I had yesterday off so Trooper and Mattie were in the yard yesterday morning sharing my breakfast and mooching as many treats as possible. This morning is Aspens turn then it’s back to work this afternoon. I miss the “good old days” here.

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#699492 Warning:theft of intellectual property

Posted by JRdesire on 10 July 2013 - 07:20 PM

Arlene - I understand completely the problems with them not citing your name and crediting you, and I'm glad you called them on it and they have removed it.   I was asking from a learning standpoint - if the scenario I presented would also be considered wrong?  I understand that asking would still be the polite thing to do, but an wondering if the information is cited (both to author and the website it was taken from) if that is allowed?  Isn't that the same as quoting from other literature?  If it's not - that's what I don't understand I guess.  I'm asking for my own future reference, not just about your work, but about web content in general. 


I teach college classes and I can state from the perspective of plagiarism that if someone takes material that is not theirs that as long as proper credit is given, there are no issues with violating copyright or intellectual rights unless the work they are taking explicitly states that the work is not to be reproduced in part or whole without prior authorization (often says written authorization) from the author.


Since I am not a lawyer I can't speak to the legal aspect of this issue, but academically the issue becomes whether proper credit is given- period.


One other thing I want to comment is some things Siamese has referenced.  I hired you several years ago to do a write up for a horse I was considering selling.  I do not breed and honestly never was all that committed in selling him but I thought it would be good so to have just in case.  I had created a website that wasn't even a "farm" website but a combination of services w/a page that listed this horse for sale w/your write up.  I was very new to the the Arabian world and moreso to the show world and I reached out to you to share that page with you because I was kind of proud how it turned out.  You got very angry with me because I hadn't put your name under the write up.  To be honest, it just hadn't even occurred to me since I had paid you for the work.  It wasn't done with any intent to not give you proper credit.  I simply did not know the standard protocol.  I was a little put off that you attacked me first instead of letting me know the proper etiquette when work like this is done.  I was happy to give you credit and I did so promptly.  As it turned out I never did sell the horse.


I'm just stating that not everyone understands the rules on this issue.  And, while some certainly do understand the rules and have no issue with stealing your work, it might be best for you to have a template email or something that outlines your policies/ expectations/ conditions.for the agreed upon work and make them acknowledge they agree before you render services.  I think this day in age it's only appropriate and expected in any professional business relationship.


That's my 2 cents.

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#626186 No Convictions For Marsha Parkinson And The Return Of Over 60 Horses As A Res...

Posted by Briska on 01 March 2012 - 11:20 AM

How sad there is the perception that the folks operating this forum would prefer this conversation would end.

Is it true? I have no idea and little inclination to find out. I do know the atmosphere of quelling debate (yes, often very heated) over the seizure of horses throughout this nation was a large part of my choosing to no longer post. Marsha's case simply brought out the true colors of a great many people and exposed both the awe inspiring and those who live under rocks.

I'll continue to participate, but what is to be gained in the absence of passion?
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#625955 No Convictions For Marsha Parkinson And The Return Of Over 60 Horses As A Res...

Posted by Briska on 29 February 2012 - 12:52 PM

Enough...let's concentrate on the important tasks we need to tackle. Addressing the news agencies and publications by letter for their wholesale buy-in to the April 2011 media release from DEFHR should be our top priority.

Hold them accountable. If they printed facts (but only those that supported their opinion) then bring the rest of the facts to their attention and let them know you're disappointed in their 'leading' journalism.

Acknowledge the good guys. There have been many professionals who have spoken out against ill-conceived and poorly thought out seizures, not just Marsha's. Write that letter and let them know we appreciate their efforts and willingness to stand in the gap.

Dr. Henneke's report. Print it out and take it to your local animal control agency (or whoever performs this service in your community). They need to know that it is no longer going to suffice as the end all for seizing animals.

We have an opportunity to make a difference. Let's not lose sight of that by engaging in minutia with folks who might, or might not, believe the written law should be followed regardless.
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#625309 No Convictions For Marsha Parkinson And The Return Of Over 60 Horses As A Res...

Posted by Peter Mileo on 27 February 2012 - 12:50 PM

I hope that Marsha can sue to get her lawyers fees back. If she needs money to do so I'll make a donation. I think she needs to sue anyone and EVERYONE who was involved in bringing this case forward.

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#625293 No Convictions For Marsha Parkinson And The Return Of Over 60 Horses As A Res...

Posted by ladycascabel on 27 February 2012 - 11:49 AM

Will she also get financial compensation for the tremendous lawyer fees and mental suffering this police state action cost her?
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#772724 Anyone remember the dangerous kill pen horse Roxie?

Posted by msjwebb on 24 July 2019 - 05:32 PM

She did a lesson tonight with a 6 year old.
A couple more

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#772673 2019 foals.......am I the only one?

Posted by BFF on 16 May 2019 - 08:14 AM

I am still unable to log in Via Google Chrome


Here are some more 2019 foal photos


Filly by Karnavaal+++/  (Dakar El Jamaal x Bellah Reina) out of Amaria VF by Psymadre















Colt at 2 days old by Elikzir++/ out of Savanna Bay

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#772648 Trooper Tales - Shocking

Posted by greygelding on 01 April 2019 - 11:35 AM

Trooper takes advantage of everything he can. With the Hotwire not working, he likes to lean over the fence for the grass, after all it’s always greener on the other side. He will walk up next to me, lean over lying his neck on the wire and break the closest plastic post. He then looks at me like “What? I didn’t do it.” I’ve never seen him hit the live Hotwire before but yesterday was another story. The fence charger was hooked up but turned off for Saturday so the solar cell could bring the battery up to full charge. Sunday morning I walked outside and he was in full lean eating the grass. Realizing the charger was off I walked down and turned it on. When I was about halfway back, here comes Trooper, sauntering along to see what I was up to. He stopped in front of me and leaned over the fence wire. Zap! He stumbled back, almost sat down, wheeled to the left and trotted all the way back down the fence line, took the turn to the right and disappeared from sight. His trot was not a floaty thing to watch but a ground shaking draft horse thing. Now he’s giving the fence the respect it deserves. We’re good and he still follows me around but won’t touch the fence let alone lean over it. Three more fence chargers to go and the ranch will be fully wired again.

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#772450 Ghost Town

Posted by greygelding on 21 November 2018 - 12:54 PM

I post about the daily life of the Carrot Crew and hope for more serious posts or any other posts for that matter. I don’t really care for Facebook but I do have a page. Sometimes I consider just not posting, maybe doing an email update for the few who seem to like reading about the non serious side of horse ownership.

Karens: there are quite a few seniors, both horses and riders, doing LD rides, so don’t give up on your dreams. You never know what the future holds. I have considered doing it when I finally retire and have the time. If you do make it out to northern California again be sure to stop by.

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#626088 No Convictions For Marsha Parkinson And The Return Of Over 60 Horses As A Res...

Posted by Briska on 29 February 2012 - 10:33 PM

A simple letter is all that is required. Sample below. It only takes a few minutes. The pen is mightier than the sword, so start using it...

Dr. Don Henneke, Ph.D.
Director, Equine Sciences
Dept. of Animal Sciences
Box T-0070
Tarleton State University
Stephenville, TX 76402

Dr. Henneke,

You are a man of principle and we in the horse community applaud your honesty. Thank you for setting the record straight on the Cantebury Farm fiasco and helping to right a terrible wrong.

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#773155 How Many Horses?

Posted by greygelding on 05 June 2020 - 01:17 PM

I’m moving a shelter from the pasture to the front line today. All horses except SoVayn offered their assistance with Trooper, Mattie, and Quazi providing the most supervision. As the days temperature increased they went to a shady spot leaving me to my work. Usually they spread out in their “clicks” but not this morning. See them all?


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